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Jenshae Chiroptera 2523	Posted - 2016.02.14 16:36:01 - [1] - Quote Dalto Bane wrote: The bright side is that the SP come from somewhere, and at a degraded amount.... and eventually the harvest will be reaped, and the price of SP will inflate, etc, etc. ... Multiple characters -> SP farms. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because...
Jenshae Chiroptera 2523	Posted - 2016.02.14 18:37:00 - [2] - Quote Linus Gorp wrote: A 10-year vet with 2M SP will rip apart a 5-day newbro with maxed out bought skills every day. ... Now tell me how a 10 year veteran with a max combat alt does against 5M SP new players. Yonis Kador wrote: Short of a public flailing or self-immolation, I don't know what more I could've done to raise awareness against sp trading prior to its implementation. ... YK I was grasping around a bit in the dark but the number of times I point things out and get shouted down ... I think either the old crowd are to tired too fight against stupid stuff like Fozzie SOV, T3Ds, Command Destroyers and now Skill Injectors or we really are all dying out and the tantrum kids are taking over. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because...
Jenshae Chiroptera 2524	Posted - 2016.02.14 20:48:47 - [3] - Quote I begin to think that Skill Injectors are a cash grab before CCP sells EVE to Perfect World, EA or some other company that can squeeze out the last blood from a stone. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because...
Jenshae Chiroptera 2530	Posted - 2016.02.15 00:27:27 - [4] - Quote Ashterothi wrote: No new SP was added to the system, and billions has been removed from the system.... SP farms take a little time to setup. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because...
Jenshae Chiroptera 2531	Posted - 2016.02.15 12:06:05 - [5] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: EVE is not what you are thinking it is. Its just an experiment, social experiment. They are testing adaptation of human mind to quickly changing environment. The winner will get all icelandic exotic dancers and a ton of hakarl. Not any more. CCP has become a large part of Iceland's economy and they have a greater responsibility to the community around them than messing with a bunch of people online. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because...
Jenshae Chiroptera 2531	Posted - 2016.02.15 12:42:34 - [6] - Quote Avvy wrote: ... Without the hard cap I knew there was going to be some kind of ****storm. There would be anyway. Now that everything is for sale for RL $, CCP has lost all integrity. First it was a hand, a kiss then a bit role play costumes but now anything anyone wants to pay for; they can have. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2531	Posted - 2016.02.15 13:01:18 - [7] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Avvy wrote: ... Without the hard cap I knew there was going to be some kind of **storm. There would be anyway. Now that everything is for sale for RL $, CCP has lost all integrity. First it was a hand, a kiss then a bit role play costumes but now anything anyone wants to pay for; they can have. i cant buy a Polaris with 99% resists across the board for rl money though, that would be real p2w For the pedant in the room: Everything a player can normally acquire through time or effort can be bought for real life cash. Avvy wrote:** Well I don't know what MMO you will be playing then as they're all going the same way. Wurm Online for now, (and yes for stupid cash you can buy things there also). I will keep an eye out for the game that bucks the trend and stands upon their integrity. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2531	Posted - 2016.02.15 13:06:52 - [8] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Everything a player can normally acquire through time or effort can be bought for real life cash. Thats the thing though, time and effort is already made, nothing is conjured out of thin air There was a time, when you paid for access to a game world, where you were anonymous, role playing was the norm and people would start on a level playing field, no matter their real life circumstances. Now people can pay to cheat their way forward in games that have corrupted communities of tantrum kids. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2531	Posted - 2016.02.15 13:23:32 - [9] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: There was a time, when you paid for access to a game world, where you were anonymous, role playing was the norm and people would start on a level playing field, no matter their real life circumstances. Now people can pay to cheat their way forward in games that have corrupted communities of tantrum kids. That time is long gone in the gaming world and id rather ccp try and generate funds than go bust ... 3) Solid game design rather than band aids and sell outs to teenage fantasy. Greater challenges at higher levels for a better sense of achievement. Couple all of that with a more effective marketing strategy. People strive to go to Oxford and Harvard. EVE has lasted so long because it was niche; because it held out apples far out of reach and people kept climbing to reach them. As I kept saying in the WiS thread, they could have us walk right through the CQ door and into a Dust social area. We could change games but keep the same characters if we had two accounts. There are many ways to widen the scope of EVE, to set the bar higher, make it more of a quality experience but they just keep on selling out. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2537	Posted - 2016.02.15 13:41:03 - [10] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: ... And remember, CCP only allows players to redistribute earned SP with other characters, something that was allowed with character bazaar earlier. Now its just more convenient, and some SP are lost. Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Avvy wrote: So although you couldn't put the sp exactly where you wanted to, you could buy a character that closely matches what you wanted, so not really a great deal of difference. Except for characters on the bazaar having a HISTORY and often a public set of skills that wouldn't have changed much and kill board with losses to check. Now, a "newbie" can do a fast turn around and hustle you into an expensive loss. Bring on the risk aversion ten-fold. Your excuse for CCP is wearing thin with repetition. SP destroyed -> SP farms are being grown as we speak. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.

Jenshae Chiroptera 2538	Posted - 2016.02.15 14:04:30 - [11] - Quote Gary Bell wrote: I mean honestly yes, it does take a bit out of the games feely squishy parts.. But it literally makes no difference to the way the game is day to day. ... There are penalties to the character bazaar. Why strive when you can just buy? Why buy for a low achievement game? CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2540	Posted - 2016.02.15 14:33:28 - [12] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: ... OH NOES!!!!!!! Someone did on a single character ... 12 page thread and you think I am talking specifically about one character? CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2540	Posted - 2016.02.15 14:45:05 - [13] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: What really is different now? Same page. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2540	Posted - 2016.02.15 14:48:47 - [14] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: So SP farm is your point? That was done before you know... History Time Public information. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2540	Posted - 2016.02.15 14:56:32 - [15] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: ... If it is not in your Bio ... its nowhere. Could it be? Are you starting to get it? "Know thy enemy" has flown out the window. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2542	Posted - 2016.02.15 15:52:08 - [16] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: ... If it is not in your Bio ... its nowhere. Could it be? Are you starting to get it? "Know thy enemy" has flown out the window. Less free intel because the character could be something entirely different than he was before. That's bad for the game? Most of the players hide at the end of Null Sec pockets / pipes or in High Sec because they are risk adverse. By the nature of people; yes, it is bad for the game. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2544	Posted - 2016.02.15 18:56:49 - [17] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: I sincerely hope that the max skill set is some sort of hoax. Not that I blame the player if this is indeed true; he only did what CCP, in effect, invited players to do. CCP have opened Pandora's Box, but so long as the cash rolls in, they will not care. ... and this is a darn good reason while I won't be giving them any more RL $. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2555	Posted - 2016.02.15 20:46:40 - [18] - Quote stg slate wrote: If you buy gametime with ISK you are equally supporting their business model, so your declaration is meaningless. The PLEX will be bought anyway. One less of them to be converted into Skill Injectors. ... and it is not my RL cash. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2557	Posted - 2016.02.16 01:56:08 - [19] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: ... and create many more free gank accounts which are essentially free now. Ouch but a good point. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2557	Posted - 2016.02.16 05:07:25 - [20] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: God, even with all those delicious tears in that threads, I'm so sick and tired of those whine threads. If the SP injectors are such a pain in your arse, then just go ffs! Just eff off and be done with it, holy crap! Some of you should step away from the PC anyways, because it looks like you take that game as some kind of replacement religion, holy ****! Calm down fan-boy. As to veterans selling SP? I doubt that many who care would "harm" their mains. Alts with limited purpose that have trained random skills because they have a skill queue to fill on the other hand ... CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.

Jenshae Chiroptera 2557	Posted - 2016.02.16 06:01:11 - [21] - Quote Teckos Pech wrote: Tell us, have you sold any SP injectors? ... if only you knew how little SP I had before they came out and how little SP I still have! CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2557	Posted - 2016.02.16 06:08:40 - [22] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: ... If that game is sooo cruel than leave for fucks sake, simple concept, isn't it? Now I know you haven't read the thread. (... and I was enjoying twisting the, "Calm down miner" inane reply) Quote: Skill injectors? Attempting to give a shyte: 0.5% This is funny, since you seem to have the angriest words in the thread. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2557	Posted - 2016.02.16 06:15:04 - [23] - Quote Teckos Pech wrote: Nice dodge. I didn't think it was a dodge but if you want it categorically then "No." I never have and never will use a skill extractor or injector. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2557	Posted - 2016.02.16 06:27:57 - [24] - Quote Teckos Pech wrote: ... Still as for the rest of the scandalized posters...I'd be curious. Not sure there is a way to prove it though. I think the only thing you can do is look at kill boards for a sudden increase in different ships or a drop in old ships. I still mine though but haven't lost a barge or exhumer in about 4-5 years, which immediately shows a flaw in this. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2557	Posted - 2016.02.16 07:28:41 - [25] - Quote Teckos Pech wrote: Hand over your API to Chribba.... Edit: Oh...did I just suggest something unpleasant for may posters? Does that show a progression graph? I mean the eveboard seems to only show the latest point that we reached. Edit: Found it but doesn't seem to work for me. http://eveboard.com/pilot/name here/progress CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2559	Posted - 2016.02.16 11:37:53 - [26] - Quote Tyberius Franklin wrote: ...works fine, ... I mean the display, I see only empty graphs, regardless of character. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2559	Posted - 2016.02.16 12:25:32 - [27] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: ... Though beyond personal vanity i dont see any actual arguments against it. .... "Know thy enemy gone" More tantrum kiddies to erode the community will stay. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2561	Posted - 2016.02.16 15:34:08 - [28] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: Please explain how this negatively impacts you, Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Crosi Wesdo wrote: ... Though beyond personal vanity i dont see any actual arguments against it. .... "Know thy enemy gone" More tantrum kiddies to erode the community will stay. stg slate wrote: Lady Anorexia wrote: Seems CCP is going the way of Blizzard plus a pinch of EA. Lol that actually is hilarious, EA and Blizzard are enormously successful companies that can crank out AAA titles that gamers **** themselves for in anticipation. I am lost for words so take this picture. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2561	Posted - 2016.02.16 19:14:27 - [29] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: What do you base that hypothetical on? Young players are tantrum kiddies and ... Lack of maturity, regardless of ages coupled with demands for immediate self gratification of the support of those designs. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2564	Posted - 2016.02.16 21:43:56 - [30] - Quote Tyberius Franklin wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Tyberius Franklin wrote: ...works fine, ... I mean the display, I see only empty graphs, regardless of character. As stated, that's likely because for some reason your API key provided to eveboard isn't working. regardless of character CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.

Jenshae Chiroptera 2564	Posted - 2016.02.16 22:08:19 - [31] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: But imagine if you had a boat ready with the host of concerns about it for crossing an ocean, and somebody gives you a plant ticket. Consider it a good thing. Sailing is a greater adventure. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because... Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.

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